Governor Perry: Texas, Energy, and His Biggest Hope for American Politics in 2025

That's a wrap on the second season of Beyond Talking Points

Today, I’m talking about what Trump 2.0 means for Texas with the longest serving governor of our state, former Energy Secretary, and my former boss, Governor Rick Perry.

It’s the last episode in our second season of Beyond Talking Points: Trump’s First 100 Days. We covered a lot of ground this season - from tariffs to mass deportations to food dyes to DOGE to DEI to Christian nationalism. All episodes are available on Spotify, Apple, and the Dallas News.

My deepest hope is that we can continue to have conversations like these across party lines and different beliefs. And that as a nation we remember that an informed electorate is the base of the whole enterprise. We must maintain the ability to sift, sort, and critically think issue by issue, holding onto the norms and truths that have gotten us this far. This podcast is one small deposit in that mission.

Also, the policy issues we covered aren’t going away anytime soon. So please keep the conversation going and share this podcast with your friends!